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Note #1:
The four P 3/4's were
run largely in the same configuration as
the 1966 P3's, with one exception being
they were run with the weber carb's
rather than fuel injection. they were run
with the same 5 speed ZF gearbox and with
oil cooler attached. The motors were 4
liter, double-overhead camshaft v-12 with
three valves per cylinder. They were
commonly known as P3/4's, although the
factory designation was 412 P. 3 cars started their life as P3 0844, 0846 and
0848.
Note #2:
Jim Glickenhaus supplied the following on
the Piper-built car:
In July 2002 James Glickenhaus bought a car from David
Piper that both he and David thought was a replica P4
built on a replica chassis to P4 chassis blueprints
that had been given to David Piper by Enzo Ferrari.
After removing 1000 rivets, dissembling everything,
stripping the chassis, researching the Ferrari build
sheets and comparing the frame with 412P 0844, 412P
0850, 412P 0854, P4 0856, and P4 replica chassis 0900,
0900a, and 0900c Glickenhaus discovered that the car
he had bought contained approximately 80+% of the
original P3 chassis of 0846 modified to accept a P4
engine exactly as described in: "TECHNICAL DATA
SHEET' of "330 P3/P4 Chassis n.0846". As it
is impossible to build a P3 Chassis from P4 Blueprints
it now seems likely that:
"After Le Mans 1967 0846 was returned to the
Ferrari factory where it was deconstructed,
investigated and scrapped. Years later, James
Glickenhaus acquired remains of 0846, and with help
from Ferrari S.p.A. who recast suspension uprights,
commissioned Sal Barone, Alberto Pedretti, Bob Wallace
and John Hadduk Jr. to restore 0846 to original
specifications.
XVII Giro di Sicilia Official Program"
In an email dated 6/10/2005 Joanne Marshall of Ferrari
S.p.A. wrote: "We confirm that, as far as our
factory records are concerned, the chassis in question
(0846) was totally written off in 1967 after the Le
Mans incident." Glickenhaus has never disputed
this but believes that the remains of 0846, including
80+% of it's original chassis survived and that those
and other remains of 0846 are currently in the car
that he owns.
The document
P3/4 Chassis 0846 summarizes Glickenhaus' beliefs.
A letter from Ferrari S.p.A., dated September 29th,
2004, Subject: P3/4 Chassis no. 0846:
Dear Mr. Glickenhaus,
We wish to thank you for the extensive dossier you
have sent regarding the above mentioned vehicle that
as confirmed on our letter dated October 5th, we have
examined in detail. The car was built on February 1966
as a P3 version and during its racing period,
officially managed by the Factory, it went though
several modifications in order to race the 24 hours of
Daytona in 1967 as a P3/4. We also confirm that, as
reported in your dossier, the car caught fire during
the 24 hours of Le Mans. It was then totally
dismantled and because of the extended damages
detected, the factory decided not to perform any
repair and to write off the chassis no. 0846. If some
of the remaining components such as engine and gearbox
were considered as possible spare parts, the chassis,
because of its racing history and the fire damages
suffered, was definitively scrapped. Therefore
eventual pieces retrieved from the trash container
should not have been used to rebuild or to revival a
car which was written off, if this is the case. We all
would like to see forever these glorious pieces but
unfortunately the chassis no. 0846 had a sad
conclusion.
Yours faithfully, Ferrari Classiche, Umberto
Masoni"
This letter confirms that 0846's chassis was
written off and scrapped, not melted into
oblivion. For many years this is ALL and
Exactly what Glickenhaus posited happened:
That his car contains 80+% of the chassis
remains of P 3/4 0846 among other original
parts. He's never disputed that as far a
Ferrari is concerned 0846 was written
off/scrapped and under Ferrari's
authentication definitions his car could not
be authenticated by them. Glickenhaus is not
the one who retrieved the chassis remains of
0846 "from the trash container" and used them
to "to rebuild or to revival a car which was
written off..." but he was the one who
discovered exactly where the chassis remains
of 0846 wound up and to insure that Umberto's
wish: "We all would like to see forever these
glorious pieces..." remains possible
Feedback regarding the above should be
directed at
Jim Glickenhaus
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Mauro Forghieri's Assessment:
From: Mauro Forghieri <mafo@*****.it>
To: Steven Robertson <robertson365@***.com>
Sent: Tuesday, 10 May 2016, 16:27:51 BST
Subject: P4
Gent.mo Sig. Robertson
Io penso che lei sia il maggiore esperto di P4 esistente.La serie di foto che mi ha inviato mi hanno fatto enorme piacere, in particolare quella della 412 s/n854 prima nuda e poi in restauro. Le devo comunque fare osservare che sia la vettura di Glinkenhaus che la vera P4 s/n 0858 non hanno il tubo da lei indicato con le frecce rosse nella foto n 4(412 P s/n0854 ) mentre hanno il tubo che lei indica sempre con le frecce nella foto n 3(dp3 arrows).
Questo diversa soluzione è dovuta alle differenze tra motore 412 e 330. La parte posteriore del telaio della falsa P4 di Glinkenhaus è stata fatta nuova e questi particolari non potevano sfuggire ai carrozzieri, che avevano già costruito vere P4. E'nella parte anteriore che non è stata rifatta, che mi sembra sia la maggiore distanza dal vero.Lei dimostra comunque che la vettura di Glinkenhaus non è una P4 originale con le sue foto relative al motore,ed inoltre la posizione della stessa Ferrari, che ha negato il numero a cui è molto affezzionato Glinkenhaus,e la mia stessa convinzione negativa e quanto asserito da altri non dovrebbe fare credere che questa vettura possa essere considerata originale.
Io non sono potuto andare in Sicilia per motivi di salute e di lavoro, ma sarò a Montecarlo. Ho cercato di fare chiarezza sui due tipi di telaio per evitarle commenti e problematiche.
Grazie per tutto con infinite cordialità e rispetto
Mauro Forghieri
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